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New Player ? Need A Weapon Stuck For Choice ?

Postby KingCraig » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:04 am

Right, Ive Seen Quite A Few New Peeps Coming On To Here And Asking About New First time Guns
and when I Started out I Sure Could Have Used Something Like This.
Im Going To Cover as Many Styles Of Combat And Best Applicable Gun, With A Review Stole From Somewhere

Will Be Adding Pricing Later


Sniping

British Super Magnum L96
(The Full Name Is Soo Cool)
1st Choice
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First Of All I Own This Gun
And Its Only Downfall Ive Had With It Is
Mag Springs Stuck (This Was Easily Sorted With Some Form Of LUBE)
Weight And Length (This Also Makes It Feel SO AWESOME )
I Use 0.3g Bullets With Mine And I Must Say Whatever you hear The Distance It Travels Accurately Is Far Superior To 0.2g
I Can Reach About 90m With A 7/10 Chance Of It Curving Off

Stats
L96 hand cocking sniper rifle in green color
Comes with 3-9x40 scope
Pair of 25mm mount rings
Sling
bipod and bb loader.
Fires 410 - 430 fps of 0.2g bb.
Fires Around 420Fps With 0.3g
Length 114 cm
Weight 9 lb Aprox
Mag Capacity, 25

Pricing
With Scope and Bipod around £149.99


Now For A Full Review, Borrowed From http://www.manc-as.co.uk/forum/index.php?s=ad5cee3b3d0754422f984c647129aa0f&showtopic=3449&pid=33012&st=0&#entry33012

It went together well enough, and I swabbed the barrel for safety and to get rid of any preservative gunk in there and used a little sil Lube where needed.

Appearance:

The metal used on the RIF,is of a dull matt appearance, but pretty much everything is metal, so the feel and weight (to a degree, 9 and a bit pounds) was hefty and quite sexy.
NB, there are internal cavities for ballast should you want to "bulk it up.
The stock unit is ABS plastic, with mould marks along the edge, which can be filed if you really want to, but I think that I may look at a paint job in Tan/ Green at some point, to give it a worn authentic look. This will of course cover any blemishes and add to the realism.
Bolt feels good and heavy and nice in the palm. Reasonable force needed to cock it.

The cocking action is excellent, very fluid and rewarding, and when the RIF is fired, there is some noise, not bad, but not as quiet as some I've heard. The end cap screws off the barrel, so a silencer may be an option at some point.

The Bipod is a little poor in quality, although does function very well, too much movement for me, and noise of metal on metal. The feet are spring loaded under presure, and you can hear the springs when you put any weight on it.

NB, I had to do a bit of DIY on the steel stub that locks into the Stock from the Bipod, and drill a second hole for the screw to lock into. This reduced the length of the "Spigot" and made it a more positive fit, with less travel and noise when the bipod clunked against the stock when shaken

The L96 feels good in the shoulder, and with the addition of the Cheek Guard, you can get a decent comfortable position down the sight. The cheek guard itself, is ABS, and has a vertical ABS pin that goins into the stock, and is adjust ed via a screw in the centre, does the job, but feels cheap.

I think that the rubber butt plate should be adjust able too, for reach lengths, this would add value right away.
Not on Any China Remakes

Hop up is in the mag well, and can be adjusted with good effect via an allum key (supplied), although you have to do it "blind " and count the revs to get a comfortable Spin v Distance ratio.

The safety catch is well placed, and usefull for moving when loaded, but does feel a bit "loose" when operated, a bit to much travel for me, plus the painted red and white dots look mass produced and done with some haste.
*KingCraig Comment, I have Not Found This With Mine

Have shot it with .36 BB's, for that extra accuracy, and 200 yds was still atainable from this RIF.

Accuracy: well, on a plus, it consistently shot within a 5-6 inch group, but for some reason about 30 cm down and left of the crosshairs, and that was with max Scope adjustment already in. suspect that either the hop up is affecting the fall of shot, or, more worryingly the barrel has become damaged in some way. More investigation there I think.
*KingCraig Comment Possibly Because Its designed For 0.30g

Overall, yep good, well made and very sexy, a couple of mods here and there and it will impress you and your mates for the price, reasonably pleased, but will hold out until I can sort the aim off out and get the round falling somewhere near the cross hairs.

Recommendations: new Sling and a custom paint job, plus use at least .25g ammo, 30 upwards if you can, the FPS will take the heavier round to a decent distance. Do a bit of work on the bipod to loose the noise and sway.


Other Snipers
Bar 10

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From What Ive Heard And Experienced With Is The Most Maneuverable Sniper
Its Light, Short Smooth And Still A Very Accurate Gun But With Less Distance Than The L96
But My Friend Has Recently Custom Upgraded His
Which Is Called The Air Brake Mod (Google If Needed)

Stats
Tested at 400 fps with .2 g BB's
Magazine Capacity 30
Weight 5 lb 9 oz
Length 100 cm
*JG version Comes With A Illuminated Cross hair Scope

A Review From http://groups.google.com/group/asgar/web/sniper-rifle-mini-reviews--new-releases
The appearance of this gun is extraordinarily good in terms of realism. The first thing I noticed was the nice textured feel of the stock, which is made out of a nice polymer, and feels very much like the stock on the real steel M40A1 that I've gotten to handle. It's supposed to be based on the HS Precision stock. While it's not as impressive as the legendary CA M24 stock, it's way better than the VSR, Maruzen, or of course any ACM rifle (much as I love my BAR-10, this feels less toylike). Best of all, it's not the sort of finish that can be ruined by painting it, so I've got no fears about painting it. I'm probably going to give this beauty a nice urban camouflage paint job. But that's neither here nor now. The stock is somewhat light, so it feels a bit toy-like, but it's much heavier than most spring guns. The stock has no visible seam lines, and the rubber buttpad is securely connected to the stock. I'm not sure if that's a good thing, since I like to be able to remove the pad and access the usual storage space in the butt of the rifle, but oh well.

The next thing that I want to note is that this gun comes with a real mount, with the cutout for the shells to come out, unlike the VSR mount. This feature is a really nice touch. You may also notice a small dial over the front screw area--that's the hopup adjustment dial, allowing for quick and easy hopup adjustments. I tend to like to adjust my hopup a bit in skirmish to give me the slight overhop that enables the really long range shots, but if you don't want it to get knocked, you can replace it with a set screw. I figure my scope will protect it from most knocks, and I'm pretty careful with my rifles, so that's not a worry

This rifle also features metal sling studs--three of them, in fact. They feel very solid, and will allow for easy mounting of swing swivels or a bipod. The back one and the middle one seem to be built into the stock:

The front swivel stud unscrews (and must be unscrewed to disassemble the rifle. The nice thing is that you can mount a bipod on the front swing swivel without sacrificing the sling mount, assuming your bipod doesn't have a sling attachment (like the MP001 bipod). The rifle also comes with a front sight, although it's a different front sight than the older Tanaka M700's, and does not come with the rear sight. I'm not concerned, as I will be mounting a scope on this rifle

Incidentally, that can be removed by screwing out a couple Phillips head screws, should you desire to install a friction fit silencer. I haven't figured out if the endcap is removable to install a separate silencer.

The rifle also comes with nice trademarks. It says "Model 700, Manufactured by Tanaka Works," and has a serial number on it as well. I don't know whether or not it's unique, but it's nicely engraved, and looks very good

This gun also is very realistic, sporting an open breech, which looks visually very close to a real rifle. This feature is especially nice when coupled with the placement of the magazine, which is in the same spot as the real steel magazine would be, making it look as if it could easily eject empty casings when you retract the bolt. It's certainly much more realistic than a spring rifle with the closed breech and magazine being well forward of the breech.

Coming back to the magazine, the magazine release is in the front of the trigger guard, but the magazine can only be released when the bolt handle has been lifted up. Incidentally, you can also only set the safety if the rifle has been cocked

The magazine itself is very nice quality, full metal, and with the fill valve in the top of the magazine. It holds enough for 3-4 magazines, maybe more. The magazine holds 11 rounds doublestack, which is very close to the capacity of a real M700 magazine (which would hold more like 5-6 rounds), although there's also a long magazine available. It's also really easy to load.

One last thing that I'd like to mention is that this gun has a cocking indicator. There's a little button on the back of the bolt that will stick out if the gun is cocked, and snaps forward again when you fire. This feature is a nice thing to have for safety reasons.

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Re: New Player ? Need A Weapon Stuck For Choice ?

Postby KingCraig » Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:05 am

Assault
AEG
M4

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Stats
320 fps using 0.2 BB's
850 Rounds Per Min
8.4v 1100mAh battery
330 BB capacity*Hi Cap And Low Cap Are Easy To Buy
Full metal body
Full and semi auto fire modes
Hop Up: Metal adjustable
Weight 7lb 4oz
Length approx 670mm to 750mm depending on stock setting

There Are Many M4's Available
TM
Dboys
ICS etc ...
I Think Its A Very Nice Looking Gun, Ive Held A Dboys m4a1 It Was Very Sweet
wlgrim Has one
Jamier Has a M4 Of Some Sort
and There Very Customizable And Most Makes Are Easily Upgradable

Review Borrowed From http://www.airsoftretreat.com/forums/index.php?topic=10854.0
Formerly known as Boyi, the makers of many low-quality LPEGs, they have changed their name to D-Boys with the release of their new M4A1. A very solid clone, "D-Boys" has done a fantastic job with their first AEG.

The externals of the gun are similar to the AIM M4, with a solid ABS plastic receiver with no trademarks to be found. However, the D-Boys M4 features much more metal content than the AIM version. Metal parts include the carry handle rail, buffer tube, selector switch, mag catch, outer barrel, and heat plate. The front sight and carry handle, as well as the D-ring are plastic. The outer barrel is a 2-piece, just like Marui, and is very solid. The front part of the outer barrel can thread off, making a conversion to a CQB gun easy with a new inner barrel.

The internals are a mixed bunch. On paper, they look fantastic. The gun features a full metal hop-up unit, a reinforced v2 gearbox with XYT gears, solid piston with ported piston head, 7mm nylon bushings, and a spring guide with a metal base. However, some guns have been running as low as 250 FPS in their stock form and getting ranges of about 70 feet max. Some teflon tape, a new O-ring to replace the horrid stock one, and a new hop-up rubber should be able to fix this.

Overall, the D-Boys is an excellent base for a performance or custom gun, and with a few aftermarket parts and some TLC could be made into an excellent carbine for very little money.


SA80/L85
Im Going To Buy Buying This Hopefully In The Near Future

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Stats
339 fps using 0.2 BB's
Rounds Per Min Unknown At Time Of Type Up
8.4v Battery
Full Metal Body
400 BB capacity magazine compatible with TM mags
M4 Style hop-up
Length 78 cm
Full and semi auto fire modes
Hop Up: Adjustable
Weight 8lb 10oz


I Think Its A very Awesome Looking Gun
When I First Saw It I Though It Was A Bit Strange
But I Grew To Love It
Not Amazingly Customizable But Upgradable And You Can add On What You Need

A Review Borrowed From http://www.zeroin.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=10765&sid=29489eab9cee5853388b0cc8eef50f79
I've got a G&G L85A1 (SA80), first skirmish with it on sunday at Alpha 5-5! The build quality so far is very nice and the newer versions of it are seemingly very reliable compared to when it first came out, mostly because the blowback has been improved.

They come out of the box at 400fps so you might need a downgrade because of your site rules. Also there is a special piston plate (or words to that effect) that stop the little hook what makes the slide blowback going into the gears: spoiling your day when it snaps! I think these can be done by the supplier.

If you downgrade it you will also need to use a 7.2V battery (if you get a downgrade, due to the gears stripping, I'm not 100% sure on what happens with 8.6V =<I've just been told by the supplier to do it!) and get it converted to fit around the fake "gas parts" in the foregrip. This is to compensate for the increased ROF from the weaker spring, so that (as I have mentioned) the hi-speed gears dont strip themelves.

It's pretty much the same weight as the L98 we use at cadets when it has the battery in-place, so there's no worries about realism, and also it is made from the same build materials. Pretty much the same stripping aswell!

I must say I dont know much about the Star version, however if you search the net and this forum I'm positive you'll find some info about it, and the G&G version (as I've posted questions on this forum about the SA80 before). All I know is that star use a plastic gearbox, which some have said is not very good, although my Star M249 hasnt been acting up for a LONG time....which is a good thing!

Should be doing a review after my game on sunday.

No idea about the SUSAT however people on this forum have suggested that it has poor eye relief. The G&G version can only take the G&G SUSAT which is due out Feb last time I looked, although it may have changed. I read somewhere in the obscure regions of cyber space that Weaver sights will fit, although dont take my word for it.



Mp5
This Gun Usualy Used By SWAT as it is Very Small Compact And Kicks A Powerful But Slow Punch
The Rate Of fire On These Are Medium In Comparison To Guns Of The Same Category

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Stats
350 fps with .20g
800 Rounds Per Min
Adjustable Hop Up
Removable flash hider For Use Of Suppressors Flash Hider Or Silencers
Weight 4 lbs 8oz
Mag capacity 240 rds (Hi Cap And Low Cap available
Length 57 Cm - 70.5 cm (extendable Stock)
8.4v Mini Battery

Review Borrowed From http://www.airsoftireland.com/forums/index.php?s=2920bc2b108b81e8fcc113ea7dbb2e60&showtopic=7572

Well after seeing the JG G36 my friend got from gunnerairsoft, I figured I'd go for something slightly different and went for the good old MP5 clone.

With regards to buying from gunnerairsoft... im not overly happy and will be trying RSOV next time.

When I got the MP5 home (after paying customs charges!...the swines!) i opened it up. Looked nice. Unfortunately the left hand side safety catch was off. No biggie, i simply got a tiny screwdriver and fixed it back on. it hasnt come off since. the gun looks very nice, feels heavy to hold, does not rattle, its very well built.

Only snag is, and its just bad luck on my part, but the safety catch dosnt work properly. When you select safe, you can still fire a shot. You have to actually hold the selector switch on safe for it to work. This is the reason I wont be going back to gunnerairsoft. When i told him of this fault (also the battery dosnt work at all) he didnt reply back to me.

The gun itself fires fairly smoothly. nowhere near as quiet or smooth as my TM P90... but only a fraction of the price. It definately shoots at 350fps, it is powerful and shoots far and straight (the exact reasons i got it).

The thread at the end of the barrel for a silencer was extremely tight, and took a lot of work to get off. Once i did get it off i sprayed some oil and worked it a few times, its still a tight fit for a silencer... but it does work, and yes, the gun is loud, a silencer helps, but its very loud. I dont think there is a problem with the motor or gears.... infact i quite like it loud :-)

All in all i think i had some bad luck and just got a gun with some problems. I know plenty other people with JG guns who have had no bother.

The magazines that come with it are top notch, made of metal and work a smoothly as u could want. Accuracy wise, the gun isnt as accurate as my TM P90, but its not far off.... but has more of an impact due to the FPS.




Will Be adding P90

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Length 24.7 Cm
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Re: New Player ? Need A Weapon Stuck For Choice ?

Postby jamier » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:33 pm

Jamie has owned or currently owns m4 (ICS), sa80(STAR), m249(STAR), mp5(ICS), mp5k(Maruzen(sp)?), glock 18c(fudge knows), tm m1911a1(TM), ak74 (ICS)
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Re: New Player ? Need A Weapon Stuck For Choice ?

Postby KingCraig » Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:58 pm

Fancy Writing A Small Description of Any Guns On My Listings ?
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Re: New Player ? Need A Weapon Stuck For Choice ?

Postby chairmouse » Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:09 am

British Super Magnum L96
(The Full Name Is Soo Cool)
Fires 410 - 430 fps of 0.2g bb.
Fires Around 420Fps With 0.3g


if these figures are typed up as you intended, may i suggest you get your chronograph checked cos if it is shootin at 410-430 with .20g bb there is no way on this green earth that the same gun is gonna shoot .30g bb at 420fps, for every .05g increase in weight of your bb you can expect to loose around 50fps in velocity, so your gun shooting 410 fps with .20g bb is gonna shoot .30g bb at or about 310fps.

and to give the weapon its full and proper title:-
Accuracy International (AW) Sniper Rifle L96a1

this awesome piece of kit has of course been replaced as British Forces primary sniper rifle by the:-
Accuracy International L115a3 Long Range Rifle

incidentally, the AW in the L96's title stands for Artic Warfare, which was one of the theaters stipulated by the MOD, that the weapon must be capable of being operated in, it is so good in artic conditions that , norway adopted it as their standard sniper rifle also

and may i ask, why did you post a review of the TANAKA M700 POLICE GAS POWERED RIFLE under the title JG BAR 10?, might be a bit picky i know, but seeing as the Bar 10 is a spring powered rifle, and if your intent as you stated was to give usefull information for those looking for their first gun, it might be less confusing to use the correct review for the gun you are recommending

you have done the same with your review of the L85a2 (SA80), you have posted a review of an L85a1 (SA80), might not seem important in the grand scheme of things but many of the airsoft L85a1's were as bad in terms of usability and reliability as the real steel a1's were, and the a2 tends to be an entirely different animal

if you are looking for reviews of virtually any airsoft currently on the market at the moment, you may find it here
http://www.marrsairsoft.co.uk/marrsforum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=95
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Re: New Player ? Need A Weapon Stuck For Choice ?

Postby Colonel_Kebab (TG) » Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:24 pm

why not do what you would do if you wanted a real gun. get the most reliable gun out there, get yourself an AK lol

pretty simple answer tbh. and its not as if they are expensive and they're all roughly the same but if you want a quality AK i would recomend the chinese copy that realsword do the "Type 56" my friend has one and it keeps impressing with every use.

i went for the budget end of the scale and got the DBoys AK74U had one problem due to my own stupidity. stock batteries for the DBoys are not good tho.

but if you are a new player the AK is a good way to go for a new player.
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Re: New Player ? Need A Weapon Stuck For Choice ?

Postby WhiteHawksan » Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:33 pm

I did write a massively long review in here somewhere, which covers everything in a lot greater detail. but you'd have to find it :P
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